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ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!

by BucketShopBill in

want to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?

only in the jw mindset!!!.

we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.

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Lying is the most detestable thing out of the seven god hates. Did you tell them that? None of this suprises us. We were slandered, lied about and kicked out because we made these idiot lame brain cleaners who still live off their parents at the ages of thirty and forty look like asses to the bethel. But bethel was no different .

In front of all those idiots you should have asked them if they heard or saw you spiritually associating with the df'd family or critizising the disfellowshipping arrangement with them. That's in chapter 10 of their elders handjob book. According to these two rules you can still talk to a df'd person as long as you are not spiritually associating with them or critizising their disfellowshipping rule. And really play it up and start whimpering as you say it. Play real stupid. Would have loved to seen those idiots catch what you had just said. They probably don't even read what's in their book due to how they act. What do you expect? They don't even read their bible or their watchtower.

Look at it as though they just got their reward in full and get the hell out of this cult!(If you can)

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CONVENTION "WARFARE"

by The Searcher in

on saturday evening i prepared three little truthful statements regarding the "new scrolls", and printed out several copies;.

1) the word 'new' does not appear in revelation 20:12.

2) the scrolls are not "new teachings", they are a basis of judgement for those resurrected.. 3) the scrolls are opened after satan is destroyed - not during christ's 1000 year reign!.

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GREAT! Now the cult will be doing articles on " Watch Out For Spiritual Terrorists In The Crapper".

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JW.ORG logo at Kingdom Hall

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

yesterday i drove to mcdonalds and noticed that the nearby kingdom hall had the new blue jw.org logo.. the rebranding has started here in holland.. g.. .

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Just googled how does color have a lasting impact on memory and they say that banks use that color to give people a reassuring sensation. So there you go, it's all about $$$$$$!

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Surprise Surprise. Got a letter from bethel today.,

by label licker in

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Appreciate the comments everyone. It truly is unbelievable when I think of the fill-in circuit overseer sitting there at my jc and accusing me of saying something to him and his wife(she wasn't there) and when I finally stood up to him and said that he was a liar, then and only then did he chuckle and say I was telling the truth and that I really didn't say that to them. And that at the very end of my jc the elders finally admit that society doesn't have all the answers and that our magazines are "magazines of half truths".

They had talked all my accusers, which were all young kiids, in to saying things they couldn't remember. They said they were all under the assumption that I gave them a feeling of not wanting to pioneer six years ago. It was all poorly rehearsed.

One question that will always be in the back of head until I die will be why were we so hated. We minded our own business yet so many times the comments were you have a nice property. This is just the perfect place for parties. We never budged and just bit our tongues or everytime there was a congregation get together, we were always asked to supply the entire hall with meat. Um, no we won't be around that weekend but we would really love to do it and then walk away. I figured bethel got enough out of us and no more.

I realize we all have to move on yet the more voices that are out there for lurkers or anyone thinking of joining, then speak out! I wish I would have found out about before I had joined. Peoples experiences with this cult touch lives and never go away wheather you are a lurker or a victim.

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Surprise Surprise. Got a letter from bethel today.,

by label licker in

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Appreciate the comments everyone. It truly is unbelievable when I think of the fill-in circuit overseer sitting there at my jc and accusing me of saying something to him and his wife(she wasn't there) and when I finally stood up to him and said that he was a liar, then and only then did he chuckle and say I was telling the truth and that I really didn't say that to them. And that at the very end of my jc the elders finally admit that society doesn't have all the answers and that our magazines are "magazines of half truths".

They had talked all my accusers, which were all young kiids, in to saying things they couldn't remember. They said they were all under the assumption that I gave them a feeling of not wanting to pioneer six years ago. It was all poorly rehearsed.

One question that will always be in the back of head until I die will be why were we so hated. We minded our own business yet so many times the comments were you have a nice property. This is just the perfect place for parties. We never budged and just bit our tongues or everytime there was a congregation get together, we were always asked to supply the entire hall with meat. Um, no we won't be around that weekend but we would really love to do it and then walk away. I figured bethel got enough out of us and no more.

I realize we all have to move on yet the more voices that are out there for lurkers or anyone thinking of joining, then speak out! I wish I would have found out about this cult before I had joined. Peoples experiences with this cult touch lives and never go away wheather you are a lurker or a victim.

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Surprise Surprise. Got a letter from bethel today.,

by label licker in

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And notice, bethel couldn't even call me, they had to send me a letter in the mail. I guess they are really scared that I will tape that too. And you know what, I will if they ever do call. I guarantee you that if a jw ever steps on my property, they will be charged again and again. I would love for this other elder to try stalking me like he did for the whole summer last year. He was rollerblading past our house every day, I even caught him and his son at the end of our lane trying to look up the lane. As soon as they were caught, they would take off. We asked them why they were doing this and they said we had the smoothest roads for rollarblading. Really??? I was stupid enough to believe it.

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Surprise Surprise. Got a letter from bethel today.,

by label licker in

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And Data Dog you are so right. I don't know how the transcript could be screwed up for it's word for word for word. Nothing added and nothing taken away. What was added was put in brackets like they do with their bibles. Boy, they sure don't like it when someone else does it, do they?It was stated right at the beginning that the comments in brackets were mine and these are the comment I would have rather given but they would have disfellowshipped me for sure. I would have been telling the truth which they didn't want to hear. Even when I told them about a sister getting caught stealing and admitting it and then blaming it on her husband, the elder turns around and says he doesn't care. I knew my goose was cooked. I was about to bring up the guy who smashed in his wife's car and threatened to blow off her head waving a loaded gun in her face and they said I couldn't talk about it. I was done.

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Surprise Surprise. Got a letter from bethel today.,

by label licker in

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Quarterback, all we did was stop going to our meetings. That was all. We knew what the elders were covering up and they knew we knew so they had to act on impulse. After they did what they did to us then we started looking on the net and found this and it was all these other stories and sites that gave us the strength to deal with what we had just been through. We know for sure it's a cult. Wish we could meet all of you in person:)

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Surprise Surprise. Got a letter from bethel today.,

by label licker in

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My husband is willing to put it on if someone knows of a better idea. He catches on quick to what you tell him so hopfully someone can help. Here goes nothing for we have nothing else to lose. We're looking at possibly relocating and starting fresh with no family or friends. Well, one set and the elders are after them too. We have no children and live out in the country where it's quiet, sometimes too quiet. Thinking of moving where my family is located so I can at least see them visually from time to time. I know they won't have anything to do with us but what can I do? I can visit my handicap sister who is in a home and if I move down there then I will volunteer to keep busy. Hubby wants to see me happy again and is willing to move need be.

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Surprise Surprise. Got a letter from bethel today.,

by label licker in

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Husband is df'd for a no show. Five hours later around midnight that same evening, the elders called to say they had a five hour meeting and decided to df him. They had nothing on him. I was publically reproved for what I wrote earlier on. I called the co for they had us both df'd at the end of the lane yet I wasn't there. The co said he would call them and reschedule another day and time for my jc. After my jc was over, I called the co and asked to appeal their decision. The one elder on my jc had to get back to me to see if I could appeal it and said if I tried then I would be df'd for it. I called the co and he said you can't appeal a public reproof so I asked him to df me. He said he wasn't going to get involved and that he was leaving it up to the elder since they know best. Then when I told him I had taped my jc, he said hey wait a minute, if you give me that tape, maybe I can help you if they did something wrong. I didn't do it for in one breath he couldn't help me and yet in another breath he could.

I do need help though. I wrote out my jc word for word yet my husband said Simone doesn't need pages and pages of it on his site. Quite a few of you have stated that you would rather read it since tape recordings can get muffled out. So what can I do for I want it out there but need help